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So, I took a look at this clarification from Stanford texts.
And so, it seems like yes, the axiom of choice as formulated in his so-called intuitionistic set theory is actually the corollary of what one could call axiomatics of the intuitionistic set theory if there were one. What there is is a set of vague intuitive assumptions.
Intuitive is not intuitionistic, you know.
And AC implies Boolean logic, in case you did not know.
So, I think now that it is all wrong.
Basically, there's no such thing as Intuitionistic Set Theory.
But a funny, although hardly provable, corollary of all this is that dependent types imply booleanness. In the form it is now popularized.
Personally, I don't believe it. I believe we still can have dependent types (objects of the form ΠAx) without having to have Boolean logic.
And so, it seems like yes, the axiom of choice as formulated in his so-called intuitionistic set theory is actually the corollary of what one could call axiomatics of the intuitionistic set theory if there were one. What there is is a set of vague intuitive assumptions.
Intuitive is not intuitionistic, you know.
And AC implies Boolean logic, in case you did not know.
So, I think now that it is all wrong.
Basically, there's no such thing as Intuitionistic Set Theory.
But a funny, although hardly provable, corollary of all this is that dependent types imply booleanness. In the form it is now popularized.
Personally, I don't believe it. I believe we still can have dependent types (objects of the form ΠAx) without having to have Boolean logic.
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Date: 2010-05-07 08:06 pm (UTC)Мы всегда можем сказать, что (например) все возможные лямбда-выражения есть множество, и например, рассуждать о выражениях, которые входят в конкретное подмножество или не входят. И когда-то, это бываает удобно и нужно.
В тех же топосах, мы вполне можем работать с такими вещами, "наблюдая со стороны", то есть, не имея никакой булевости.
Но вот, по моему скромному мнению, в базе логики булевость совершенно не нужна, раз её можно ввести потом. И уж если есть в распоряжении логика высокого порядка, то имхо, это совсем очевидно.