juan_gandhi | виды нашей местности

From:

chuka_lis

горно)

From:

dennisgorelik

Столько свободного места, но цены на недвижимость, всё равно, задраны до небес.

From:

juan_gandhi

Ха. Среди вот этих вот холмов можно купить что-то, миллиона за полтора.

From:

dennisgorelik

Почему эти поля до сих пор домами не застроили?

From:

proben

А чтоб цены на недвижимость не упали.

From:

sassa_nf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_of_Outstanding_Natural_Beauty

From:

dennisgorelik

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_of_Outstanding_Natural_Beauty

This photo points to an agricultural field. It is artificial, not natural.

From:

sassa_nf

It doesn't look like you've read what that is about.

In summary, there are things in this world no money can buy. Plots of land will have designated use. AONB does not mean "useless land". AONB means "certain uses are hard to get".

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dennisgorelik

While it is possible that agricultural use would be allowed while residential construction would not -- such restriction seems strange to me.
Agricultural fields do not look prettier than residential houses.

Are you sure that this is the case in San Jose suburbs?

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juan_gandhi

I would not call them suburbs. Suburbs is where we live. This area, they are non-incorporated lands and parks. No easy access, for instance.

So, do you suggest to fill Central Park in New York with skyscrapers?

From:

dennisgorelik

> do you suggest to fill Central Park in New York with skyscrapers

No.
But I suggest to fill valleys around San Jose with residential housing.
Parks should be in the mountains.

From:

juan_gandhi

They are already filled. You can check out the maps.

From:

dennisgorelik

South-East of San Jose is still filled with farms.

There is even some
farming space within walking distance from IBM research.

Edited Date: 2017-11-21 11:29 pm (UTC)

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juan_gandhi

IBM research is in the fields. Of course there are cows around (on IBM territory, I think).

It's not suburbia, it's beyond. Further South there are wineries... ranches... That's why I ride there.

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dennisgorelik

> IBM research is in the fields.

"IBM research" is surrounded by grass and then by fences. South-East from that IBM territory there are fields.

> It's not suburbia, it's beyond.

Correct: it is not suburbia yet, but it should be, considering the demand.
Agricultural farms should use the land further away from the Silicon Valley.

Edited Date: 2017-11-22 12:06 am (UTC)

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juan_gandhi

I'm always amazed how you are telling me what I see around my house.

From:

dennisgorelik

Yes - you and I see the same things: grass fields.
But you and I, somehow, come to a different conclusions.
You think that there should be no residential areas in these fields, and I think that it makes sense to build more houses in these fields.

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juan_gandhi

You may be not aware, but there's a lot of development happening not exactly in these fields, but a little bit further down South, San Martin, Morgan Hill, Gilroy. Prices around 700k. Just google it.

Edited Date: 2017-11-22 07:56 pm (UTC)

From:

dennisgorelik

Morgan Hill is 15 minutes further away than Old Monterey Rd.
Why not use closer fields (around Old Monterey Rd)?

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juan_gandhi

Why are you describing to me the area where I ride my bicycle every day? What Old Monterey Road, what's so good in it? Dusty, uneven, boring.

From:

dennisgorelik

The good part about Old Monterey Road is that it is 15 minutes drive closer to San Jose (and Silicon Valley companies in general).
The proximity to these companies -- is the main reason for building residential houses there in the first place.

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juan_gandhi

It is bullshit what you are saying.

Also, your maps are a little bit old.

And of course it takes about 15 minutes to get from San Jose to Gilroy (without traffic, I mean).

From:

dennisgorelik

> your maps are a little bit old

What did change since these maps were made?

> it takes about 15 minutes to get from San Jose to Gilroy (without traffic

Why would "without traffic" measurement be important?
When most people commuting to their work - there is traffic, right?
Therefore time "with traffic" would be the most relevant, right?

From:

vladibo666

А вода, река, озеро там есть поблизости?

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juan_gandhi

Калеро резервуар - это на второй фотке налево будет.
Я по той дороге, что вдали, регулярно на велике гонял; сейчас там не гоняю, потому что маловато будет.

А на первой фотке юг Сан Хосе; у нас тут не особо с этим делом. Ну внизу есть святой источник Святой Терезы.

From:

zuka

Какая красота!

From:

juan_gandhi

Дык. С трафиком непросто, зато гулять есть куда шлендать. Эх.

From:

dsfhjkl

А в холмы пешком ходить можно? или там везде заборы, такие как на второй фотке?

From:

juan_gandhi

Этот забор огораживает территорию Айбиэм.
Заборов много, конечно. Но и ходить есть куда. Парков же полно.

From:

12_natali

рельеф на все вкусы.
а есть ли там волки в лесах? это я утром прочла, что в Крыму их было всех истребили, а сейчас они опять зашли и крестьян пугают.
а без них тоже нельзя, травоядные "без присмотра" уничтожат побеги кустов-деревьев.

Edited Date: 2017-11-21 11:59 am (UTC)

From:

juan_gandhi

Койоты вместо волков. Народ друг друга пугает, чтоб животных на ночь не выпускали. А травоядных тоже до хрена, олени кругом, индюшки; зайчики есть, но очень мало. Кроме койотов, водятся еще еноты, рыси, пумы.

From:

12_natali

даже рыси! ничего себе.

From:

juan_gandhi

Эти звери вообще не стесняются. Идешь по тропе, а такой котяра так не спеша в сторону уходит.

From:

12_natali

спокойно....а вы тоже спокойно?

From:

juan_gandhi

Ну чо, ну котик бесхвостый. Разве что сфотографировать не удается - уходит. Вот скунс другое дело. Или тем более еноты.

А пумы близко не подпускают, скрываются тут же.