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juan_gandhi1. Listening to Fox yesterday, enjoyed Hannity saying that he does not remember any administration that listened less to the public's opinion than the present one. He has a very short memory, does not he?
2. Looked up today the basic items of the new health plan. Well, first, there's no item I would object to. Objectively, they all look good. Except I don't know how they are going to find and penalize all those homeless people that do not have their insurance. That's kind of ridiculous, federal penalties. Who is going to do it, IRS? Second, personally myself may even profit from this plan. Which is a good point, too.
3. I know Obama is a liar. We should treat him similar to Kissinger: a very smart person who lies all the time. But that's okay; so far no harm done. You cannot seriously blame Obama or Bush for the financial crisis while holding the point that state a) is incompetent, and b) should not interfere.
So next time they ask me I'll probably vote for Obama. Look at how graciously he had shown middle finger (actually the middle finger of his African-African brothers) to the global warmingers!
2. Looked up today the basic items of the new health plan. Well, first, there's no item I would object to. Objectively, they all look good. Except I don't know how they are going to find and penalize all those homeless people that do not have their insurance. That's kind of ridiculous, federal penalties. Who is going to do it, IRS? Second, personally myself may even profit from this plan. Which is a good point, too.
3. I know Obama is a liar. We should treat him similar to Kissinger: a very smart person who lies all the time. But that's okay; so far no harm done. You cannot seriously blame Obama or Bush for the financial crisis while holding the point that state a) is incompetent, and b) should not interfere.
So next time they ask me I'll probably vote for Obama. Look at how graciously he had shown middle finger (actually the middle finger of his African-African brothers) to the global warmingers!
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Date: 2010-02-25 06:45 pm (UTC)The health care proposals, all of them, prohibit discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and lifetime maximums.
This is a sure death to the health insurance companies, since it contradicts the foundations of their business. As soon as we get rid of pre-existing conditions we will start moving to single payer system. Run by the government. There's no escape. And this is good.
So, The Dark Side (the republicans) will fight this to death.
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Date: 2010-02-26 02:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 07:00 pm (UTC)Where did you get the "smart person" part?
Second, personally myself may even profit from this plan. Which is a good point, too
Do you remember where the free cheese is usually found?
Just in case you don't:
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Date: 2010-02-25 07:13 pm (UTC)No, you won't, unless you're denied coverage now for one reason or another. You're too rich for that (I don't know how rich you are but I know how rich Valley programmers are, more or less). The premise of the plan is to supply nearly unlimited health care to everybody that now does not have the money to buy it. There's no other source to get this money than to take it from those who have. All talk about "rooting out waste and optimizing processes" is bullshit, and so is all that "prevention" talk - i.e. prevention is great, but it won't change anything in the costs. Since you are one of those who has, you don't have an option to profit from it, sorry. Somebody has to pay the bill.
You can, however, if you are so inclined, take some comfort in the fact that you'll probably suffer less than more rich people - the scale would probably be very progressive, just as our taxes now are.
Except I don't know how they are going to find and penalize all those homeless people that do not have their insurance. That's kind of ridiculous, federal penalties. Who is going to do it, IRS?
Homeless people would get insurance for free. Only people would end up penalized would be the people that have money to take but don't want to put some of them into health insurance system. That would not be an option anymore - they need the money to pay for broader coverage.
You cannot seriously blame Obama or Bush for the financial crisis while holding the point that state a) is incompetent, and b) should not interfere.
I can. They are incompetent, they should not have interfered, and they did. And they will keep doing it - if you think this crisis sucks, compare to the last one and think about how the next one would look like.
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Date: 2010-02-25 08:32 pm (UTC)It only takes being out of work for long enough and getting a pre-existing condition and you're screwed. Unless you are independently wealthy.
People that have more ("Valley programmers") just stand to lose more to a medical bills crisis.
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Date: 2010-02-25 08:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 09:56 pm (UTC)Again, if you get ill now between jobs, and you didn't pay insurance between jobs, then under the new system you'd be better off. But you can't plan for getting ill or know it in advance, so I'm not sure how one can claim one would be better off - unless he plans _both_ getting fired and getting ill, which I don't think is the case.
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Date: 2010-02-25 07:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 07:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 08:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 10:02 pm (UTC)As for Copenhagen - even Obama is not ready to sign a blank check to the third world, and that's what the third world demanded in Copenhagen. If they get reasonable, and if Chinese find way to profit on it - more govt control is not a good incentive for them, unlike Obama, since they can already have as much control as they wish - it still can be done, but Obama can't do much by himself there.
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Date: 2010-02-26 12:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 01:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 02:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 02:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 07:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 11:38 am (UTC)Ну если 800 миллиардов стимулуса, потраченные на покраску травы, это no harm done, если 10 процентов безработицы это no harm done, если предлагаемый healthcare plan сделает здравоохранение как в Великобритании (а хуже в развитых странах [и некоторых недоразвитых] просто не бывает), то уж я не знаю, что он должен сделать, чтобы наконец стать bad guy.
Понятно, что я в Америке не живу, поэтому мне как бы должно быть пофиг. Но поскольку так уж повелось, что Америка является некоторым подсознательным образцом для подражания для прочих стран, и для Швейцарии в том числе почему-то, то я весьма concerned.
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Date: 2010-02-26 02:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-26 03:13 pm (UTC)По поводу растрат стимулуса — нагуглите, пожалуйста, отчёт МакКейна.
Что касается «это сейчас очень важно для программистов, пенсионеров, собаководов и прочих отдельных групп людей» — я бы сказал, мыслить надо не в стиле собаки Павлова (группе, в которой я состою, подбросили кость — значит, всё в порядке), а принципиально. Я бы даже сказал — категориями, учитывая собравшийся контингент. :)
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Date: 2010-02-26 04:19 pm (UTC)